Zambiano
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Spanish
Adjective
zambiano m
"Bart Goddard"
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> gkmcnees@comcast.net wrote:
>
>
> >> You evidently think that God is unloving then.
> >
> > Quite the contrary. I believe God is omnibenevolent.
>
> Since He's also omniscient, He knows whether a particular
> infant will grow up to be unbelieving. If He kills them
> today, they'll end up in Heaven for eternity. If He lets
> them grow up, they'll end up in Hell for eternity.
>
> How can you assert that God is omnibenevolent, when He's
> clearly not killing a number of infants who would benefit
> from an early death?
How do you know that any would grow up to be unbelieving?
> > That God loves ALL without exception. Unlike you,
> > Luther, and Calvinists who teach that God only loves
> > (savingly) some "elect."
>
> You soooooooooooooo don't know what I believe. Neither I
> nor Luther taught that God loves only the elect.
Call it what you like. Macarthur also claims to believe that
God
loves all men. So also do many other Calvinists. But their
doctrine speaks
much louder than their words.
At least for the Calvinists, their doctrine is "nailed
down," in the
WCOF. And it it, it specifically states that God "passes by"
those
who are not the elect. Unless God does NOT pass by, then by
their other doctrines (Total Depravity, Irresistable Grace,
etc.),
none of these can be saved.
> > Your drivel is nonsense.
>
> If it were, you'd be able to argue against it.
I'm quite satisfied that I have proved your "arguments"
are drivel. They have no substance whatsoever.
> You
> can't, so you hurl meaningless deprecations. So what?
Talk about "meaningless deprecations" that is ALL you
and the Calvinists hurl at both me and all those who oppose
your anti-biblical nonsense.
You and Bob keep claiming that I teach salvation by keeping
the law, which is the very opposite of what I teach and have
shown from the Bible.
I think it is true that the "faith" that both of you teach
should
be considered WORKS in the fullest meaning of the word,
for evidently you believe that saving faith amounts to
keeping
the whole law perfectly.
While I believe it to mean the very opposite!
Saving faith is the casting of oneself on God as a helpless
sinner deserving only hell, to receive His mercy as He
offers
it in Christ Jesus through the Gospel.
This is the diametrical opposite of what you claim for your
faith!
> I know it's frustrating to learn that all the effort
> you've put into saving yourself has been for naught, but
> the truth will set you free.
He's already done so.
> >> You yourself said that _everyone_ who is saved has to
make
> >> such a free will choice.
> >
> > I just denied that in this very post which shows your
error!
> >
> > Quote: "Basically, By Christ's death God was
propitiated.
> > Hence God
> > can save anyone whom He chooses. "
>
> Just because you denied it in this post, doesn't mean you
> didn't say it in another. And since you can't keep even
> your own doctrine straight, I'm a bit surprised to dare
> to impugn someone else's.
I think you will find that we were discussing the normal
salvation process for adults.
> >> Just try and explain this.
> >
> > Done.
> >
> > Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be
> > saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
>
> Where is free will or causality in this verse? Answer:
> It ain't there. You lose. No cigars.
Thanks, I hate cigars.
But the free will is there, and obvious for all but the
blind.
Gary
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