Xương
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xương
Douglas Cox wrote:
> On Fri, 13 May 2005 20:45:47 +0000 (UTC), lsenders@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>
> If the 70 weeks of Daniel represent time, they cannot contain gaps.
> Dispensational theory, which you seem to be following here, relies of
> a huge gap between the 69th and the 70th week, but time has no gaps.
>
Then why is the Church denoted as a "mystery?"
>
> You seem to have inserted a gap, jumping from events that occurred 19
> centuries ago, (the ministry of Jesus) to imagined events that are
yet
> future. This is a glaring flaw in your interpretation.
>
This "glaring flaw" perfectly and historically explains the "two
Messiahs." The distinction of the Lamb of God and the Lion of Judah.
Also, this is the exact same division which Jesus Himself unfolds when
in Lk 4:16 He divides Isa 61:1 from 61:2.
Also, Daniel 9:26 would be false if there were no division between the
weeks. The previous 69 weeks are literally fulfilled exactly "in
time." When, "in time" did the "prince" ever "make a firm covenant
with the many for one week?" You want literal fulfillment "in time"?
Fine, now show me the historical record which evidences the historical
fulfilment of the 70th week as can be shown for the first 69? The
burden of proof falls into you lap.
"The middle of the week" falls in perfectly with John's revelation
which was not written to the "churches" until 96AD. Obviously then the
sacking of the temple, 40 yrs after Christ's ascension does not fit
either Daniel's nor John's prophecies. Therefore it must yet be
future. In point of fact, it occurs in exactly as both the Jewish
testament and the NT detail. The Abomination of Desolation occurs in
the "middle of the week" when the "Great Dragon" is cast out of heaven
and he possesses the Antichrist, "the prince" to declare himself to be
God. THEN the prophecies of Joel and Zephaniah, detailing the Day of
the Lord, come to fruition.
The whole presupposition of the Tribulation, "the time of JACOB's
trouble" is the divine purification of the nation of Israel. The
Church is already pure "in Christ."
>
> This is apparently based on a misinterpretation of Daniel 9:27, "and
> he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the
midst
> of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to
cease..."
>
> I suggest this refers to the Messiah, not Antichrist, and "confirming
> the covenant" refers to the ministry of Christ and the gospel being
> preached around the world.
>
Doesn't fit. It doesn't fit the whole gender of Daniel's prophecy. It
also does not gender itself to John's revelation which reveals the out
playing of Daniel's 70th week. Consistency. This is what
distinquishes one prophetic school from another. The dispensational
view of the end times is consistant with the whole prophetic record,
both fulfilled and yet to come.
>
>
> Revelation 12 mentions this, the chapter about the heavenly woman,
and
> the great red dragon. Those "stars" that get cast to the earth, drawn
> by the tail of the dragon, who are they? Former Christians, perhaps,
> those who have abandoned their faith, and returned to the world?
See how you have to dream up an interpretation. See how, to remain
consistent to your presuppositions, you are forced to read into the
text. See how you make of no reputation the OT prophetic passages
which are required to understand John's revelation. Where, oh where,
in the context is the Church? "Saints" do not equal "church." And it
is clear in the context that it is Israel who is involved for only
Israel can be shown historically to have given birth to the Messiah,
not the Church. The Church Age was a mystery and you will not find it
in any OT prophecy. It occured because Israel would not receive their
Messiah as the servant. But the point of the Tribulation is that they
will be humbled and purified and will receive Him as the Lion of Judah.
>
> Dispensationalism makes a sad error; its supporters assume they will
> have all been rapured away, and so escape these events, while those
> who are "left behind" endure tribulation.
>
And just what is the "tribulation?" It is the judgment of God. If we
remain consistent with your understanding then there is also no eternal
judgment as well. 2 Thes 2:3 speaks of the "departure" of those
mentioned in 1 Thess 4:17.
2 Thess. 2:5 Do you not remember that while I was still with you, I was
telling you these things?
"Departure" or "apostacy" did not come to have the meaning "a departure
from the faith" assigned to it until the late 2nd, early 3rd century.
So to read that definition into 2 Thes 2:3 written in 51 AD, IS a "sad
error."
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