Sustantivo

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Noun

sustantivo m (sustantivos)

Alternative spellings

• substantivo

1. noun

es:sustantivo

Gary wrote:

> "Bob Felts" wrote in message
> news:5179510A-0D68-B484-CF1F-8F51928EA59E@srcbs.org...
>
> > Gary wrote:
> >
> > > "Bob Felts" wrote in message
> > > news:81A09F92-266F-42DF-6869-417E17AE925F@srcbs.org...
> > > > Gary wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Bob, please see below.
> > > > > "Bob Felts" wrote in message
> > > > > news:FD631AC1-A7CB-BABD-DAB3-EBB19006FC1D@srcbs.org...
> > > > > > Gary wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Because man is unable to keep the law perfectly, and hence
> > > > > > > obtain eternal life in that way, does not mean that man cannot
> > > > > > > believe the Gospel and be saved.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So why is man unable to keep the law perfectly? Doesn't man have
> > > > > > free will?
> > > > >
> > > > > No man ever chooses to obey all the time.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > _Why_?
> > >
> > > He chooses not to. We like to sin.
> > >
> >
> > I like to eat ice cream, but I choose not to.
>
> Did you use your "free will?"
>

Your question assumes facts not in evidence, as we'll see.

> > So you didn't answer the question of why we never choose to obey all
> > the time. Why has no man (except for Jesus) ever chosen to obey all of
> > the Law all of the time?
>
> Try to remember when you were growing up, and when why you
> chose to sin, to disobey your parents. We all have a
> "fallen" nature which has a "tendency" to choose to sin.
>

So? If your will is free, as you claim it is, and keeping the law is
possible by making the right choices, then your free will should be able
to overcome any "tendency" to sin.

Why don't you? Why do you, who have free will, choose to sin?

> ... Augustine before age 63 taught that we are born with a propensity but
> not a necessity to sin. It makes sin unavoidable, rather than inevitable.
> That is, it is inevitable that we will sin, but it is not inevitable that
> we must sin.

This is gobbledygook. If I tell you that it is inevitable that you will
go to the store, then you must go to the store.

> Even though we are depraved and by nature bent toward sin,
> nonetheless, each sin is freely chosen.

Why do you freely chose that which causes your death instead of freely
choosing that which leads to life? If I place before you a bowl of dung
and a bowl of ice cream, why would you choose the dung? Either you
aren't free, or you are insane (or you're a dung beetle, but we'll
ignore that option).


>
> > > > > > Keeping one single law does not mean one keeps the whole Law;
> > > > > > however, breaking one single law does mean that the whole Law is
> > > > > > broken (Jas 2:10).
> > > > >
> > > > > But believing ONE THING, is the same as keeping the whole Law.
> > > > >John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your
> > > > >sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your
> > > > >sins.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > You miss the point. Why bother with believing when the same result
> > > > can be obtained by keeping the Law?
> > >
> > > Well, the first time you mess up, and break the law, then you've blown
> > > the "law" route.
> > >
> >
> > That isn't what Scripture says. Ezekiel 18:
>
> Does God contradict Himself? When He wrote
>
> James 2:10 for whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet
> offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
>
> Did He contradict Ezekiel? I believe not.
>

All this shows is that you understand neither Ezekiel or James. James
says that breaking one part of the Law means that all of the Law has
been broken. Ezekiel says that once that happens, turning from all
transgressions results in forgiveness and, in the end, eternal life.

>
> > 27 Again, when the wicked turn away from the wickedness they have
> > committed and do what is lawful and right, they shall save their life.
> > 28 Because they considered and turned away from all the transgressions
> > that they had committed, they shall surely live; they shall not die.
>
> Are you certain that this does not refer to physical life?

Of course it refers to physical life. Freely choose to obey the law and
you will not die.

>
> > > > > > > Acts 15:10 Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon
> > > > > > > the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we
> > > > > > > were able to bear? 11 But we believe that through the grace of
> > > > > > > the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Again, this misses the point. If man has free will, why not go
> > > > > > the law route? Who needs Jesus?
> > > > >
> > > > > I do.
> > > > >
> > > > > For I have broken and break almost all of them. The ONLY remedy is
> > > > > Christ.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Why do you break them? Do you not have free will in the matter?
> > >
> > > I choose to. Selfishness, etc.
> >
> > So you're saying that you're a victim of your nature? You cannot do
> > other than break the law?
>
> No I am not saying that for that is precisely what you believe and thereby
> can excuse anything and everything you do.

It's clear that you neither know what I believe or what Scripture says.
We are without excuse -- and it's not because our wills are allegedly
free.

> Each time we sin, we choose to sin. The determination is made by our
> SELFs. Not randomly, (indeterminism), nor by something outside ourselves
> (these things certainly influence us to a lesser or greater degree), but
> in the final analysis we choose.
>

So why do you let your will be influenced such that you choose death?


> I often choose to not break the law.

So why don't you chose to always obey the Law? Why don't you exercise
the freedom you claim you have?

[...]


> > > But I don't break all the laws all the time. On occasion, I have
> > > chosen to obey.
> > >
> >
> > "On occasion" avoids the issue. What prevents you from doing it all the
> > time? All you have to do is what God says in Ezekiel: turn from your
> > wickedness and obey the law.
>
> How does that atone for past sins? Not committing sin in the future does
> not cover the sins one has already committed.
>

The Law provides for atonement.

> > > Thus as Scripture states above, "I am not able to bear the law."
> >
> > So you aren't able to do what God commands. The command does not carry
> > with it the means. Is that what you want to say?
>
> God has given us the means by His indwelling Spirit. [...]

And how is this means put into effect? If you say "by an act of the
will", then either your will isn't free (since the Spirit is the means
by which your will is actuated), or you don't really have the means
since you sin.


>
> Galatians 3:21 Is the law then against the promises of God?
> God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could
> have given life, verily righteousness should have been by
> the law.
>

But all that is necessary to keep the law is a free will.



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