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matthew_member@newsguy.com wrote:

> In article <99F01FF5-94CE-71C2-020B-64D4527AEC2C@srcbs.org>, Sarah
> Kanary says...


>>For the record, I am not a "salvation by works 'type'".
>
> Expect Bart and Bob not to believe this.

The reason we don't believe this is that 1. JW's have
a deviate definition of "salvation", 2. Doctrine informs
practice, but practice also informs doctrine. And the JW
practices all point to obsession with behavior.

B.


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Matthew Johnson wrote:

> In article <153.21.08.05.256213000@srcbs.org>, Bob Felts says...
> >
> >
> >
> >Gary McNees wrote:
> >
> >> "Bob Felts" wrote in message
> >> news:151.59.14.05.918582000@srcbs.org...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Gary McNees wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > For the Calvinist god certainly does not only speak lies, but acts
> >> > > unjustly.
> >> >
> >> > Who says?
> >>
> >> God and me.
> >>
> >
> >Where does God say that what you happen to think is unjust is unjust?
>
> What a cheap shot, Bob! Gary never said this. He never said that God said
> what Gary happens to think is unjust really is unjust. He only said that
> Gary and God say the same thing.
>

Well, that's what's being contested -- whether or not Gary and God say
the same thing. Gary says that the Calvinist god acts unjustly. The
primary complaint seems to be that creating vessels of wrath devoted to
destruction is unjust. I'm curious to know where, in Scripture, we find
that this is actually unjust -- and not something that just happens to
offend Gary's sensibilities.

You wrote something in another post on Matthew 5:45-48; I'll take a look
at that in more depth in a little while.

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