Machiavel/Citations

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Citations of Machiavel

• 1969 — Beware of that Machiavel of a policeman. — John Kennedy Toole, A Confederacy of Dunces, Chapter 10, Page 268

In article <104.25.11.05.359064000@srcbs.org>, basicallyblues says...
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> >Not an an ambassador, not an angel, BUT THE LORD HIMSELF SAVED >THEM
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>quoting the LXX to prove a doctrine is inconclusive.
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>"IN all their affliction He was afflicted, and the angel of his
>presence saved them. In His love and mercy he received them..." (Isaiah
>63:9 NAS)
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>Isa 63:9In all their affliction He was afflicted , And the angel of His
>presence saved them; In His love and in His mercy He redeemed them, And
>He lifted them and carried them all the days of old.
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>~el.J;n.y;w ~'l'a.g a.Wh w{t'l.m,x.b.W w{t'b]h;a.B
>~'lw{[ yem.y-l'K ~ea.F;n.y;
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>and nearly every other Bible correctly translates this verse similar.

But why are you so sure they are correct on Isa 63:9, yet wrong on John 1:1?
Don't you see your own glaring inconsistency here? Better yet, don't you know
how obvious this inconsistnecy is to the rest of us?

>leave it to a trinitarian to rely on tendentious and obscure LXX
>argument.

Leave it to a JW to rely on tendentious and obscure translations of John 1:1,
while falsely accusing others of doing the same on Isa 63:9.

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>he WAS an angel or messenger so your scripture reference proved my
>point. Thanks.

Thanks for the thansk, but tehy were premature. No, it does NOT prove your
point. For the "angel of His presence" has always been a somewhat mysterious
figure. So referring to this angel can _prove_ nothing.

But it should not surprise you that the Orthodox have always believed that this
angel is really the pre-incarnate Christ, i.e., the Word. NOT Michael! There is
NO good reason to suppose that this "angel of His presence" is Michael!


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