Id
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English
Noun
id
- One of the three components of the personality
See also
Latin
Pronunciation
- AHD: ēd
Personal pronoun
id n
Abbreviation
id.
- Abbreviation for the word idem which means same. Used in citations to express the idea that the citation is to the same work as cited above.
Malay
id
gkmcnees@comcast.net wrote:
> Bart, it would be good if you would give a direct
> quote of me when you say I say something.
And you should extend the same courtesty to me and God,
but you don't.
>> You say that infants don't have to make a choice,
>> but rather, that God just saves them all.
>
> Logic? Absent!
Of course it's absent: I'm talking about _your_ doctrine.
>> But
>> you refuse to answer any decent questions, like
>> "how do you reconcile your two doctrines that say
>> 1. God saves no one without his cooperation and 2.
>> God saves all infants"?
>
> 1. I said or say, "God saves no one AGAINST their
> will."
>
> 2. I did not say this. I said that God saves all infants
> who die in infantcy. There is a difference.
Fine if there's a difference. You still have God
saving some without making this crucial free will
choice of yours. You can't reconcile these doctrines
without some sort of works righteousness.
> Actually, Bart, do you believe that one is saved if one
> is born again/ regenerated?
Yes. Provide one uses the conventional meaning of "if."
You seem not to, but think that "if" means "because".
> Am I mistaken?
Almost invariably.
> But I also believe that all men are so drawn. And that men
> can sucessfully resist this drawing.
And therefore, the men who refrain from resisting have some
quality which those who resist do not have. Where did this
quality come from? If God gave it to them, then He created
some to be saved (by giving them the non-resistance gene) and
others to be damned (by giving them the resistance gene.)
If God didn't give it to them, then some choose rightly
and some choose wrongly of their own free will. And that
choice is meritorious unto salvation.
You can't have it both ways. Free will can not be separated
from works righteousness.
Bart
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