Fabian
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Etymology
From the Latin Fabianus, belonging to Fabius.
Adjective
- Of, pertaining to, or in the manner of, the Roman general, Quintus Fabius Maximus Verrucosus; cautious; dilatory; avoiding a decisive contest. Fabian policy, a policy like that of Fabius Maximus, who, by carefully avoiding decisive contests, foiled Hannibal, harassing his army by marches, countermarches, and ambuscades; a policy of delays and cautions.
- (Usually with a capital) Advocating that socialism be reached through a series of gradual and moderate reforms; believing in the slogan, The movement is everything, the goal is nothing; relating to the Fabian Society, a British socialist society advocating reformist socialism.
Noun
- (Usually with a capital) A fabian socialist, a gradualist socialist; a member of the Fabian Society.
Synonyms
gradualist, reformist, moderate, social democrat, liberal socialist, moderate socialist
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Would you explain HOW your Post can have any relevance to Scripture
when NOT ONE BIBLICAL CHAPTER AND VERSE is given as reference, ALL these
HUMAN COINED ISM"S do not come from the BIBLE
Maranatha !!! Pastor Tom and Mo
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Gary
> "Bob Felts"
> news:96CA7083-00F2-CEA8-8EEF-753A42BE06FA@srcbs.org...
>
> > The way God views faith it isn't a work. The way you view
> > faith it is.
>
> I truly believe that the way you view faith is it a work,
On what basis do you make this claim? Especially since I claim that
faith is something that God causes to happen in a person who is
spiritually dead.
> but the way the Bible and I view faith it cannot possibly
> be a work. It is the very opposite of any kind of work.
You view faith as something which man must _exercise_ in order to obtain
salvation.
>
> I want to amplify this response.
>
> It seems that Bart defines saving faith to be equal
> to obeying the First Commandment.
You haven't been paying attention, then. Bart defines faith two ways.
1) The way _you_ view faith, and
2) The way Bart (and I) and Scripture views faith.
In _your_ soteriology, man must exercise faith in order to be saved.
This is equivalent to saying "in order to be saved, man must do
something". Well, "doing something" is no different from lawkeeping.
>
> It may be that you have a similar definition.
"May be"? In your very first sentence you tell me how I view faith and
yet you don't know how I define faith?
>
> My definition of saving faith is quite the opposite of obeying the First
> Commandment or any other commandment for that matter.
You still haven't grasped the fact that you say contradictory things.
For example, you say that God saves infants. Yet you say that God only
saves those adults who exercise their free will. As Bart correctly
concludes, "you cannot reconcile these doctrines without some sort of
works righteousness."
>
> To me saving faith is the throwing of oneself on the mercy of God,
> admitting that one is a sinful person through and through, and that there
> is nothing in oneself worthy of anything except hell.
"Throw", "admit" -- these are things you claim must be done in order to
be saved. Furthemore, and most damning, is that Jesus is nowhere in
this statement. It's all about you.
>
> And no one can even come to this knowledge except by the work of God the
> Holy Spirit who John 16:8 When he comes, he will convict the world of
> guilt in regard to sin and righteousness and judgment: 9 in regard to sin,
> because men do not believe in me; 10 in regard to righteousness, because I
> am going to the Father, where you can see me no longer; 11 and in regard
> to judgment, because the prince of this world now stands condemned.
>
But you don't say just this. You go on to say that man can resist God's
grace. Those who do the work of stopping resistance are saved, those
who continue to resist are lost. Stopping resistance is work. You
quote these Bible verses to show us that God is somehow in the
neighborhood of salvation, but it is man that has the final say.
> Thus, my saving faith is empty of any righteousness, and obedience to any
> command, especially the first commandment, which if obeyed, would
> constitute perfection.
Of course it's empty of righteousness. That's because it is full of
_your_ work: "stopping resistance, admitting, throwing".
>
> God is the one who saves by the work of Christ on the cross, and the
> imputation of His righteousness to the sinner.
So you say here. But you deny it every time you try to explain how
someone is saved.
>
> One is born again entirely by the power of God,
> born of the Spirit, and this being born again is the
> beginning of salvation, regeneration, and culminates
> in glorification for everyone who is born of God.
>
If it's entirely by the power of God, then where is your free will?
You say this here, but then you sneak man's effort back in.
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