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Whoever is a believer in Christ is a new creation.The old way of living
has disappeared.A new way of living has come into existence.God has done
all this,He has restored our relationship with him through Christ,and
has given us this ministry of restoring relationships.In other words,God
was using Christ to restore his relationship with humanity.He didn't
hold people's faults against them,and has given us this message of
restored relationships to tell others. Therefore,we beg you on behalf of
Christ to become reunited with God.God had Christ,who was sinless,take
our sin so that we might recieve God's approval through him.
~2Cor.5:17-21.

Here's a bible translation worth checking out: Godsword.org

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On Sun, 4 Sep 2005 03:58:45 +0000 (UTC), "Gary"
wrote:

I will repeat what you snipped and ignored. It is a legitimate point,
and cannot properly be disdained off-hand.

>
Wasn't John so proud of his closeness to Christ? Look up the word
[poor] in John's gospel and see how many times it is found. In a
quick search I found just four, and none were spoken by Christ! And
three of those, John 12, had to do with Judas' complaint of not
selling the ointment for the sake of the poor. The other verse was
also not from Christ, and also involved Judas, in an odd way. When
Christ said "Go, and do it quickly.", the others thought, since Judas
had the moneybag, Christ had told him to get something for the feast,
or give something to the poor. I'm thinking that even may have been a
Jewish tradition at feasts, and not something particularly Christ did.
>

This is unusual treatment of the poor by John, compared to other
writings. Since it is unusual then I at least think to consider it as
prophecy. And it is that other's teachings on the poor might be a
_betrayal_ of the Gospel. From the evidence available to us all, this
is not a difficult consideration for me. And telling me I "don't
listen to God" is no answer, at all. You have refused to listen to
the evidence, which is of God.

The Bible's treatment of the poor (or more specifically, taking money
from Christians) is spurious, and at times even vicious. Especially
referring to the execution of Ananias and Saphira as recorded by Luke.
He treated it as if it were for a 'lie,' though obviously for the sake
of belongings, _ALL_ of a property. I reject Luke, and that story
completely. But not all of his writings are incorrect. Then it would
be a silly writing, of course. As it is, it is dangerous; as a
_thief_ and a liar. One can only be a thief if one can get inside.

Repeat, Luke's sermon of the mount is open class warfare. Your denial
does not change what is. Also, only Luke's version of Lazarus (what a
name for him to choose!) is troublesome. He wrote (strongly inferred)
the rich would go to hell, for they had their reward, and the poor
would be rewarded for their sufferings. And this is a repeat of what
he wrote in the sermon on the mount; which is a thought no one else
recorded. Luke is a _obviously_ a troublemaker.
--
Mike

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