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Bart Babbled:
>You're _surprised_? Have you read your own material? Here's
>a little quote from "The Finished Mystery":
out-of-date not an official doctrine of JWS so there's no point. Let's
stick to the Bible. Besides that quote doesn't even contradict what I
wrote so what's your point? Neither one of your "possibilities" are
correct.
>Googling "Jehovah's Witness" brings up a list of two kinds
>of sites. Set aside the anti-JW ones.
the ONLY site one needs to go to is www.watchtower.org to find out what
JWs believe
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Bart Goddard wrote:
> gkmcnees@comcast.net wrote:
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>> According to Scripture, faith comes through hearing the word of
>> God, and believing it. According to Calvinism, faith is the result
>> of being regenerated.
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> You're making a false alternative. Regeneration IS the granting of
> faith, which is accomplished by the preaching of the Word.
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>> In fact, Scripture states that we must believe in order to become
>> the child of God.
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> No it doesn't.
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> Bart
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And Augustine Says:from - http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/npnf105.pdf
pg. 448 Chapter 10 [V.]—
Free Will and God’s Grace are Simultaneously Commended.
When God says, “Turn ye unto me, and I will turn unto you,”3011 one of
these clauses—that which invites our return to God—evidently belongs to
our will; while the other, which promises His return to us, belongs to
His grace.
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God’s gift, it would not be said to Him in prayer, “Turn us again, O God
of hosts;”3013 and, “Thou,O God, wilt turn and quicken us;”3014 and
again, “Turn us, O God of our salvation,”3015—with other passages of
similar import, too numerous to mention here. For, with respect to our
coming unto Christ, what else does it mean than our being turned to Him
by believing? And yet He says: “No man can come unto me, except it were
given unto him of my Father.”3016
3013 Ps. lxxx. 7.
3014 Ps. lxxxv. 6.
3015 Ps. lxxxv. 4.
3016 John vi. 65.
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