Aargau
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English
Proper noun
Aargau
- A canton of Switzerland (its German name).
Synonym
- Argovia (the Italian name), the canton of Aargau, the canton of Argovia
Translations
See also
Esperanto
Proper noun
Aargau
- Aargau
German
Proper noun
Aargau
- Aargau
Bart Goddard wrote:
> gkmcnees@comcast.net wrote:
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>>>It doesn't matter how you put it. If God sovereignly determines
>>>it, then the person is not even slightly free. Either there
>>>is something that God did not determine (such as whether I
>>>choose corn or peas for supper tonight) or I had no freedom
>>>in my choice.
>>
>>God's perfect will was that you choose to eat peas, for they
>>are better for you. But God allowed you to choose the corn.
>>God knew that you would choose the corn, but His will was
>>that you choose the peas. God did not cause you to choose
>>the corn, you chose the corn. God knew that you would choose
>>the corn, and allowed you to do so. You were free to choose
>>the peas, should have chosen the peas, and could have
>>chosen the peas, but your SELF decided, (against what
>>you knew you should have chosen) to satisfy your pallet,
>>and choose the corn. :)
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> So your stance is that God did not in fact determine
> my choice of vegetable.
I think my stance is the same as Aquinas. Both God and
the person determined the choice. It seems that Aquinas
teaches that the same choice can be caused by two causes.
The ultimate cause is God, and the immediate cause is
the man.
> Now apply the same scenerio to choosing between Jesus and Satan.
> Billy Bob should have chosen Jesus, but chose Satan instead, quite
> contrary to God's will, so he's damned.
We are not saved by choosing Jesus.
> OTOH, Betty Lou Thelma Liz chose Jesus, and ends up in Heaven.
> So she just saved herself by obedience to the 1st Commandment.
Betty Lou, were she saved, was not saved by choosing Jesus.
> Free will theology _always_ ends in works righteousness.
Needless to say, I disagree. One is saved by "coming to Jesus,"
but one comes to Jesus by faith, which is neither a good nor
a bad WORK.
When one receives Jesus, then GOD saves the person. This salvation
has many components, being born of the Spirit from Above, being
sealed by the Holy Spirit (Never can be lost), being justified
by faith, (Christ's righteousness is imputed to the person),
becoming a child of God, etc.
The RESULT of this "so great salvation," is that works follow.
Some type of works, even if they be as simple as those of
the thief on the cross. And further, even if all the person's
works are worthless, the person is still saved.
God gives the person everlasting life when one believes,
and this life is everlasting and cannot end.
> We can say things like "Paint the room a nice sky-blue pink."
> It sounds like a sentence, but we simply can't have a blue
> pink. Likewise, we can say "God predestines our free choices."
I suppose that it matters not that many well educated philosophers,
educated in both philosophy and logic disagree with you?
>>The bottom line: Matthew 6:10 Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in
>>earth, as it is in heaven.
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> And it says "Lead us not into temptation". Does that mean
> that God might tempt us?
Bart, why the diversion?
> The petitions in the Our Father are
> petitions which need not be preceeded by "If it be Thy will...",
> because in this prayer, we pray for things which are already
> granted.
So, you are saying that the raping of little children is God's
will?
Gary
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